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Put Your Phones Down: KATSEYE, Ariana Grande & Lily Phillips
Clara Amfo & Munroe Bergdorf are unpacking the moment and getting into it...
Clara Amfo & Munroe Bergdorf
Published 07 September 2026
Clara & Munroe Are Into It / W!ZARD Studios

From the politics of pop, film to fashion, think pieces to random corners of the internet, the frivolous to the serious, pop culture obsessives Clara Amfo and Munroe Bergdorf are unpacking the moment to get into it and want you to be too.

Pop culture is having a moment, and on this episode of Into It, Clara and Munroe are giving credit where credit is due... whilst also reminding the internet of the importance of touching grass once in a while!

Kicking of with a chat about the pop girlies who are making 2026 their year, Clara and Munroe dive into KATSEYE - the K-pop machine and whether any of it is real. Where is the line between talent and the 'machine' that aims to rinse artists for everything they have to offer?

We're then diving into the use of phones at gigs - are the phones the symptom or the disease? After watching a girl FaceTime her friend for two hours at the Ariana Grandé gig, Clara & Munroe are wondering if something is being lost. They chat about Billie Eilish's concert film, Madonna's Confessions party and how different artists are tackling the sea of phone screens at their shows.

Next comes a nuanced conversation about the internet discourse around sex work. After falling down a TikTok rabbit hole, Clara watched an episode of Holly Willoughby's podcast where Lily Phillips was a guest. This leads to a conversation about where hypersexuality can be a trauma response, how the sex work conversation is never simple and how the real concern isn't what any one woman is doing with her body - it's the appetite being created, the men consuming it, and what that normalises for everyone else.

We wrap with what we're Over for this week: soft launching relationships on social media and remembering to live... even if it doesn't make the 'gram.

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